From: skipthedemon	Date: October 7th, 2009 08:28 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)

I am by NO MEANS an expert. But I'm reasonably sure Diamond will want exclusive rights. A few years ago then my husband was trying to self publish, Diamond took its fees as a percentage of the sales. If they still use that system, of course it behooves them to have sole rights.

	From: kormantic	Date: October 7th, 2009 09:07 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)
	That is helpful!

Thanks for sharing that. As I understand it, Alliance sort of works for/with Diamond, so I don't think that will count... but does that mean that Amazon booksales are naysayed was well?

Hmm.

	From: skipthedemon	Date: October 7th, 2009 09:16 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)
	Re: That is helpful!

This was. *thinks* 2001. Internet sales of comics were less of thing. It's possible Diamond has restructured it's contracts to reflect that reality.

	From: geekturnedvamp	Date: October 7th, 2009 10:20 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)
	Re: That is helpful!

It shouldn't affect Amazon sales, but I haven't actually dealt with a situation like this in any professional capacity, so I don't know for sure.

	From: kormantic	Date: October 8th, 2009 04:00 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)
	Re: That is helpful!

We're waiting to hear, but I feel like you're right about this.

	From: teneagles	Date: October 7th, 2009 10:35 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)

The biggest pain in the neck with Diamond is that they won't distribute if you fail to garner $2500+ worth of orders. And that $2500 is calculated on the payment they make to you after they take their 60-70$ off the top. So, if you have, ie, a $5 book and less than 715 copies are ordered, they don't ship -- even to the people who did order. And since they don't pay you your cut until after you have already printed and shipped your product to them, if they cancel for low orders you're out a hell of a lot of money.

I haven't heard of them demanding exclusivity. They're pretty in-your-face in the catalogue about the things they do exclusively carry, and it's a small portion of the total.

	From: kormantic	Date: October 8th, 2009 04:03 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)
	noted

and we've talked abot that; previously our main concern was orders that would be "returned"; with Alliance, the books are absolutely sold, and they give you a six month purchase order, so we could fill it even if everybody decides to order a LOT of books.(g)

	From: anatsuno	Date: October 8th, 2009 12:09 am (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)

Just a note to say, when faced with a company, any company, who does things a certain way - as described in the comments by others, for example - it is always possible to say well, I want a /different/ deal, and here's what I'm prepared to offer and here's what I'm not prepared to sign away. Often they WILL be annoyed by these negotiations and they will say anything, even stupid shit like 'it's too hard to write up another contract' and of course, they'll blame their legal departments for tying their hands i,stead of admitting they don't WANT to negotiate terms -and yet, a contract is just that, a contract, and BOTH parties have to agree, and it's not because they make 90% of the people they deal with sign the same form contract that another one can't be drawn up.

I'm stressing it because it's very easy to forget. I've seen it happen.

	From: kormantic	Date: October 8th, 2009 04:04 pm (UTC)		(for the permanent collection)
	don't let them squirm out of negotiating!

check! Thanks for sharing your insight.